For anyone who belives in God we know that he made the earth in 7 days. But...
Dinosaurs were suppose to be on earth for thousand of years before the first humans were on earth and there was never anything in the bible that talked about dinosaurs
Adam & Eve died before the dinosaurs were on the earth? I dunno, it makes no sense. Because Adam named all of the animals, & most of them weren't there when the dinosaurs were around. Sometimes religion doesn't really make sense with history.
I believe in God & all, but some of the stuff in the Bible doesn't make sense with what scientists tell us what happened way back when. & scientists have proof, so sometimes it's easier to believe them over the Bible.
Some fundamentalists are now saying that dinosaurs existed at the same time as Adam and Eve. Or maybe it isn't new, but I've just recently seen a related article being a topic of discussion at another forum I frequent where news is kept up with.
Anyways, they don't have evidence, of course. They just want you to take their word for it, or they'll point out "holes" in Evolution as if it helps validate their claim.
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I always thought the bible wasn't meant to be taken so litteraly? If you study the bible you will see most of the stuff isn't true - they are simply stories told to bring a point across.
~Kris
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I always thought the bible wasn't meant to be taken so litteraly? If you study the bible you will see most of the stuff isn't true - they are simply stories told to bring a point across.
1. Why are you 'wowed' at the fact that I don't think theres this living all powerful God in a litteral sense?
2. You mean when we die? We will probaly just be dead - a motionless body. Thats how in my opinion religion even started, to get away from peoples strongest fear - death.
Just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean I don't support it - I think God and all that is amazing at getting people through the day and comforting them, and giving them a higher spiritual sense. But to me that is in no way comforting, just silly.
~Kris
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1. Why are you 'wowed' at the fact that I don't think theres this living all powerful God in a litteral sense?
2. You mean when we die? We will probaly just be dead - a motionless body. Thats how in my opinion religion even started, to get away from peoples strongest fear - death.
Just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean I don't support it - I think God and all that is amazing at getting people through the day and comforting them, and giving them a higher spiritual sense. But to me that is in no way comforting, just silly.
~Kris
i wasn't wowed at the fact you dont' think there is a powerful God i wowed at the fact you went to catholic school too.
and i think that God is good at getting people through the day
1. Why are you 'wowed' at the fact that I don't think theres this living all powerful God in a litteral sense?
2. You mean when we die? We will probaly just be dead - a motionless body. Thats how in my opinion religion even started, to get away from peoples strongest fear - death.
Just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean I don't support it - I think God and all that is amazing at getting people through the day and comforting them, and giving them a higher spiritual sense. But to me that is in no way comforting, just silly.
~Kris
I think religion was started to make people afraid...if you do bad things you go to hell and suffer forever...if you are good you go to heaven and be happy forever.
1. Why are you 'wowed' at the fact that I don't think theres this living all powerful God in a litteral sense?
2. You mean when we die? We will probaly just be dead - a motionless body. Thats how in my opinion religion even started, to get away from peoples strongest fear - death.
Just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean I don't support it - I think God and all that is amazing at getting people through the day and comforting them, and giving them a higher spiritual sense. But to me that is in no way comforting, just silly.
~Kris
I think religion was started to make people afraid...if you do bad things you go to hell and suffer forever...if you are good you go to heaven and be happy forever.
From looking at all the other posts and my own beliefs, I partly agree with that.
Last edited by Jshostar on Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:35 pm; edited 1 time in total
A very interesting conversation here. Started out with Jshostar asking the question:
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For anyone who belives in God we know that he made the earth in 7 days.
But...
Dinosaurs were suppose to be on earth for thousand of years before the first humans were on earth and there was never anything in the bible that talked about dinosaurs
So what do you think?
And ended up in a discussion about believing in God. But that happens a lot. Simple questions can turn into other discussions.
So, let me first answer Jshostar’s question.
The bible does talk about dinosaurs. If you have a bible go to the book of Job, chapter 40, verse 6 and read through end of chapter 41 and think about the description of the animals that God is giving Job.
The behemoth - his tail sways like a cedar; his bones are like tubes of bronze; his limbs like rods of steel.
The leviathan – his mouth ringed with fearsome teeth; his back has rows of shields tightly sealed; his snorting throws out flashes of light; firebrands stream from his mouth, sparks of fire shoot out. This actually sounds like a fire breathing dragon, doesn’t it?
If Job knew of these animals, then there must have been many of them around, along with others like them.
Do I believe “dinosaurs” were still around when man was? Yep, I sure do!
And now before somebody accuses me of being a simple minded fool…..
For many years I didn’t believe the bible was true. Went to church on Sundays because I was made to, prayed at meals and bed time to keep mom and dad happy, but never believed it.
One day I was talking to a friend in high school about it. I told him I didn’t believe the bible was true, that it was just a bunch of stories. Without missing a beat he said, “Prove it. Prove the bible isn’t true.” He knew me well enough to know I never pass up a challenge.
I spent the next fifteen years trying to do that. Studied it, took courses in ancient Greek, Hebrew, Arabic, history, all that. I didn’t go to a bible school or anything, I did it all at a non-religious college.
For years I poured over the texts and scrolls of the bible, translating them from their original languages, checking the meaning of words, comparing time lines with other historical records of the same era, reading other books of archeology and so on. I was determined to prove the bible was wrong!
In the end I made the discovery that I was the one who was wrong. There is too much data from other records that corresponds with the bible’s information that it removed all doubt for me. I started out to prove the bible was a lie, but ended up proving I was the one who had been lying when I said it wasn’t true.
KobeEgan, you said,
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I think religion was started to make people afraid...if you do bad things you go to hell and suffer forever...if you are good you go to heaven and be happy forever.
I have something I want you to think about. What is a religion?
There are many different kinds of religions that don’t have teachings of hell or damnation. Some teach that if you are honest and show kindness toward others will allow you to come back in the next life as a higher level of creature. If you don’t, you’ll go back down the food chain a bit, depending on how bad you were in this life. But no hell.
Religion is a set of beliefs and values that define who and what you are as a person. It’s not about believing in God. You are a religious person yourself. Why? Because you believe that religions were created to make people afraid. That is your religion….the religion of believing in no religion.
I hope this has been helpful to you all. If you have any reasonable questions ask them.
Defining religion that way, it becomes a redundant term, and hence useless, if you mean to categorize people.
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-- Frank Herbert; Mentat Handbook; Heretics of Dune
And a point you have made, though I do not understand the importance of having made it.
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-- Frank Herbert; Mentat Handbook; Heretics of Dune
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