The point is, in the context of heaven and hell, its not about the religion it's about the relationship with god. The bible doesnt say you go to heaven for being good and hell for being basd, it says you go to heaven for accepting that jesus is your savior and the only way to get to god, and you go to hell for not doing that.
Why is everyone so reluctant to say "Ok, all I have to do is know in my heart that God loves me so much he sent Jesus to be killed, and to conquer death, so that I wouldnt have to spend my life in hell for not sacraficing an animal one day. And while I'm here on earth God will take care of me and I don't have to worry about the things that are coming up because I know in the end it'll all turn out right. So now I'll give up my life to God and see how things change for the better!"
So many people are depressed or saying they feel like something is missing in their heart or their life is going down hill fast and they feel hopeless or lost. But when someone mentions Jesus they are so reluctant to even think about the millions of people all around the world accepting this free gift, reluctant to think of all the miracles and turned around lives, gave them hope, a new outlook, PEACE! People always say the word peace when they describe what it was like to know god was with them now, and always was, just waiting for them to say "come on in". There was no crying and screaming and pain and agony, there wasn't a sudden lightning bolt coming from nowhere the second you say "I think I might actually see this out, it could be worth it." There has never, ever been a case of drugs solving problems, of alcohol making people feel better and having a wonderful life, or having all the money you could ever want, all the power you could ever want in the long run. History and literature are full of stories of rich powerful people being corrupted, not being satisfied, always wanting more.
So my question here is, "WHY?" Why won't you even THINK about it. Why won't you turn it around in your mind a while, look some stuff up, find out what christians you know think about life?! And I dont mean people who just say "I'm a christian because my parents make me go to church" I mean real people with real changed lives. there are more than you think. There may be doubt, everyone is allowed to doubt, it a part of our nature, but not one of them has regretted it.
And a point you have made, though I do not understand the importance of having made it.
The importance of it is to make others realize that they have a religious belief, even if they don't think they do. And to make people realize that they catergoize people when they say they don't believe in religion.
Why does it matter if someone's religious the much more inclusive way you defined it? Such persons are referring to not being religious the way it's more often implied, which is the positive assertion that there is no deity or deities, or a lack of belief in a deity or deities.
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Well I would think maybe adam and eve then dinosaurs then they died out and evolution worked its magic lol i dont know and I do believe in the bible and in god but ya know the thought of reincarnation is to hard to believe atleast i dont think but i dunno
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Well, I think that what happened was that Adam and Eve were created after the dinos were. But the simple fact of man's population growth and needing food....that took away from what some of the dinos could eat, and man in turn hunted the dinos.
I'm wondering how many people a T-Rex could feed. One of them could feed the town for a whole MONTH!!
I think the 7 days it took for God to create the world are different than the 24 hour days we are familiar with. maybe between creating dinosaurs and humans millions of years (in our mind) went by.
I think the 7 days it took for God to create the world are different than the 24 hour days we are familiar with. maybe between creating dinosaurs and humans millions of years (in our mind) went by.
It didn't take 7 days, not even true believers know how long it took - I'm not sure why the number 7 was used but I know it has significant meaning behind it, again not meant to be taken litteraly.
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I think the 7 days it took for God to create the world are different than the 24 hour days we are familiar with. maybe between creating dinosaurs and humans millions of years (in our mind) went by.
I was debating about if I should comment on this or not, then decided I should more to inform you than anything.
JustJen wrote:
I think the 7 days it took for God to create the world are different than the 24 hour days we are familiar with. maybe between creating dinosaurs and humans millions of years (in our mind) went by.
Kris wrote:
It didn't take 7 days, not even true believers know how long it took - I'm not sure why the number 7 was used but I know it has significant meaning behind it, again not meant to be taken litteraly.
Remember when I said I had taken years to study the bible and the original languages? Well here’s one area that I took some extra time with because of the question of how many days it really took.
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Genesis 1:1 –
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2) And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
3) And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
4) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
5) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
6) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
7) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
9) And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
10) And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
11) And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
12) And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, [and] fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so.
13) And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good.
And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.
The word used here for day is Yowm, pronounced “Yo`-me.” It is Hebrew for the literal day, from sunset to sunset. According to this passage it only took God six (6) days to create everything, and on the seventh (7th) day he rested. This is also why we are to take the Sabbath as a day of rest from work, a topic for another time.
The seven days are seven actual days. Remember that Moses was given this information by the Holy Spirit.
[quote="Waiting on God"]I was debating about if I should comment on this or not, then decided I should more to inform you than anything.
JustJen wrote:
I think the 7 days it took for God to create the world are different than the 24 hour days we are familiar with. maybe between creating dinosaurs and humans millions of years (in our mind) went by.
Kris wrote:
It didn't take 7 days, not even true believers know how long it took - I'm not sure why the number 7 was used but I know it has significant meaning behind it, again not meant to be taken litteraly.
Remember when I said I had taken years to study the bible and the original languages? Well here’s one area that I took some extra time with because of the question of how many days it really took.
Quote:
Genesis 1:1 –
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2) And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
3) And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
4) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
5) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
6) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
7) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
9) And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.
10) And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
11) And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
12) And God said, Let the earth put forth grass, herbs yielding seed, [and] fruit-trees bearing fruit after their kind, wherein is the seed thereof, upon the earth: and it was so.
13) And the earth brought forth grass, herbs yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit, wherein is the seed thereof, after their kind: and God saw that it was good.
And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.
The word used here for day is Yowm, pronounced “Yo`-me.” It is Hebrew for the literal day, from sunset to sunset. According to this passage it only took God six (6) days to create everything, and on the seventh (7th) day he rested. This is also why we are to take the Sabbath as a day of rest from work, a topic for another time.
The seven days are seven actual days. Remember that Moses was given this information by the Holy Spirit.
Well I'm more interested in making sure people are clear on their understanding of the Bible.
But I have many other interests too. I love backpacking and camping, hanging with good friends, staying up all night and seeing who drops of first, training my dog.
i think the bible was made of almost just lessons. maybe some stories were true, but recorded to teach a lesson. but like adam and eve is almost surely made up. something funny, my religion teacher last year was saying how silly it is that people are looking for noahs arc and all this she said "people just dont get that the bible is filled with stories!" or something similar. then she keeps going on about how jesus is our savior and god created us and stuff. its almost hypocritical.[/img][/url][/list][/list][/code][/u][/quote][/i][/b]
Maybe because it is like impossible for the whole world to flood? It was just like the Black Sea that flooded big time or something...Thats what I think, thanks to The History Channel
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And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
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